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Post by fishoil on Aug 2, 2010 15:16:08 GMT -5
Sorrry, I didn't have the radio on. It was just me and my daughter last night and we usually don't leave it on much. If Salty doesn't set you up I bought some 10LB fish shaped weights last year that work good from a guy in Maribel who makes them. I think I still have his phone number somewhere if you want it.
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Post by fishoil on Aug 2, 2010 10:45:18 GMT -5
Not much to report from last night. We ended up 1 for 3 with all 3 hits on the 30# copper. We set up about 4:30 in 100' and headed out to 140' before turning around. We took our first hit after a couple of hours in about 90' on a glow ghost J-plug. It took a bit of drag and then was gone right after I started reeling on it. I brought in the copper only to find the back hook broken off on the J-plug harness. The next one came near dusk in about 85' on the copper and a green/black glow ladder PK in standard size. After getting into another line, going around the rigger cable, and 2 nets snagged up in the boat, we finally landed it. The final hit came on the same set up and put on a good display thrashing on the surface and trying to tailwalk. Just as my daughter was lifting him up for me to slip the net under him, he thrashed and the spoon came flying back at us. All I could do was shine the flashlight at him and watch him head back down.
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Post by fishoil on Jul 31, 2010 10:14:44 GMT -5
Speed was most of the reason I kept going north. I couldn't hardly get the boat going fast enough south to keep the down speed where I wanted. Going north with the engine at idle the downspeed was just above where I wanted it but I figured I'd be OK with it if I ran the right spoons. There was a wicked current heading south down deep. Up higher it wasn't as bad but I wanted my baits deep in the cooler water. With all that idling I think it might be time for a new set of plugs in the engine. It died once when my partner hit the spreader lights with me reeling a fish almost to the boat. For not having ran the boat before he did a great job of following my shouted directions and got it moving again just in time to run back and net the fish for me.
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Post by fishoil on Jul 30, 2010 10:46:12 GMT -5
As much as it pains me to say so, Championship has given you good advice. Just remember that there are many ways to get the job done. I prefer to use mono backing on my copper rigs, mainly because I've had bad experiences with braid and don't trust it. I switched my reels over to Diawa Saltists this year for my copper and 10 color leadcore. I was using Okuma CV-55L's and the Saltists are way better, mainly because of the speed when you want to clear a line or change a lure. My favorite copper rig is 300' of 30# copper and after last night I like it even more. I think it actually does run deeper than a comparable amount of leadcore, but even if it doesn't I wouldn't give up either rig. There are times when one or the other works better, but you will always find both of them on my boat. As far as knots, I use a Spro swivel with a haywire twist and shrinktubing to attach copper to backing or leader. The Willis knot is the only knot you'll need for leadcore.
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Post by fishoil on Jul 30, 2010 7:35:33 GMT -5
We got out about 4:30 last night and set up in 80' and stayed between there and 100' all night. We trolled mostly north, with the "calm" waves it just wasn't worth the effort to go south and we ended the night almost to the Sturgeon Bay light. We got 2 fish off a rigger set at 72' in 83' of water within 20 minutes of getting set up and figured we were in for a good night. Of course after that we never got another bite until dusk.
At dusk the copper fired while I was trying to change out a lure on a rigger. We landed the fish and reset the copper. Then just as I started to put the rigger line back out the copper went off again. We landed that one, reset the copper and the rigger, and the wire dipsy fired. We lost that one about half way to the boat, reset it, and moved the riggers up to 22' and 37' since I was finally marking fish up higher. Then the 37' rigger fired off, right after we landed that one the copper went off again for our final fish.
We ended up 6 for 7 with all of them being about 8 to 10 pounds each. The lures and setups were:
2 for 2 on Elmo spoon on rigger at 72' in 83' Water 3 for 3 on Green/Black Glow Ladder PK spoon in 90'-95' water 1 for 1 on Purple/Black Glow Ladder PK spoon on rigger at 37' 0 for 1 on wire dipsy 125' out on 1.5 setting Bloody Nose spoon
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Post by fishoil on Jul 29, 2010 8:20:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the report. Do you know what the water temps. were on the surface or below?
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Post by fishoil on Jul 28, 2010 11:23:00 GMT -5
I like the idea of using structure to find concentrated fish and I'm sure the Bank would work under the right circumstances (with a bullet proof vest of course ;D). I've seen some pretty decent structure in shallow water near Algoma when I've been running in or out. So I think it might be worth a try there.
I've used Buzzbombs for deep lake trout in Canada but I think jigs would work better for shallow salmon. Does anyone have any ideas for a jig with a strong enough hook? I make walleye jigs but I'm thinking that the Eagle Claw 570's that I make them with would bend with a decent salmon on them.
I've got a trip scheduled to Stannard Rock next month so I'll see what we use for jigs up there. I would think that whatever they use for the big trout there would be strong enough for salmon.
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Post by fishoil on Jul 28, 2010 8:12:26 GMT -5
I guess a guy could motor up to the the Bank Reef off Sturgeon Bay, pick a nice spot right in the middle of the reef, drop anchor and start fishing. Now thats funny!! If I try that I'll tell everybody waving at me that it was your idea. ;D ;D
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Post by fishoil on Jul 27, 2010 16:00:43 GMT -5
Does anybody do any jigging for salmon? I know we were poking fun at it (amongst other things) in a thread a couple of weeks ago, but this weekend I saw Gillespie's show and they were catching them jigging. It got me thinking about it seriously and I'm looking for any guidance that anyone can offer. Anybody wanna help me out??
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K/D
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Post by fishoil on Jul 23, 2010 15:52:18 GMT -5
I had the winning fish on Wednesday night and had to let her pull off so I can catch her during the tournament. ;D
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Post by fishoil on Jul 23, 2010 14:26:47 GMT -5
dmac, I have Mag 10's and a Sub-Troll also and my autostop works fine. Make sure you have the coating peeled off the cable and have the bare cable touching the screw(?) on the spool of your rigger. Also don't run the cable through the spring on the Sub-Troll antenna, just mount the antenna on the boom so it is within an inch of the cable.
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Post by fishoil on Jul 23, 2010 12:47:10 GMT -5
I've got 4 320's on my boat, 2@2colors, 1@3colors, and 1@4colors, all with mono backing. I wouldn't try to get more than 4 colors on one, you just can't get enough backer on. By the way that 4 color has been good out on a board with several different spoons lately.
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Post by fishoil on Jul 23, 2010 12:26:25 GMT -5
It's not that I don't like you, I would have talked to you if I was there. I haven't made it out since Wednesday night. You caught more fish than my last two trips combined, so in the future if I don't talk to you it might be that I don't like you anymore. ;D
Seriously, good job and thanks for the report. I'm glad somebody's catching some even if I'm not.
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Post by fishoil on Jul 22, 2010 10:53:52 GMT -5
That's funny Iffy. We set up in 60' and worked out to 180' checking temps. We found the colder water down deep out there, but not many fish marking. We elected to end the night in 60' but we were wondering if we made a mistake and should have stayed out deeper in the colder water.
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Post by fishoil on Jul 22, 2010 9:34:11 GMT -5
I got my butt kicked at Algoma last night too. We had a screamer on a dipsy 125' back in 120' with a chrome LJ dodger and aqua fly that I fought with for about 5 minutes before it came off. An hour later the wire dipsy got hit, the rod bobbed twice but it didn't even take any drag before it was gone. Just before dark I pulled in a shaker off a rigger while checking lines and that was it for the night. We ended the night in ~60' marking lots of bait and big fish but never saw any more action. We didn't see to many fish at the cleaning station either and quite a few boats didn't even stop when they pulled out of the launch.
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