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Post by fwlpla on Jun 22, 2014 21:12:42 GMT -5
Im kind of new to lake michigan fishing. Just started last year and i'm already looking to expand my arsenal. I ran 2 pp dipsys last year but want to get a wire set up. Ive read both sides of roller rods vs. twilli or torpedo tips. Im leaning towards twillis mostly because I dont want to spend 250 bucks on a roller rod. Is this a bad decision? What kind of rod should I look for if I go this route. I run 9ft 6 pp dipsys now and would like to run the wire along side it. Would a 8ft medium action rod suffice. Should I look at an certain rods? Would a sealine 47 be a good choice of reel or do I need a 57? Probably going to run blood run.
Sorry to be long winded, just want to get something that is going to work properly.
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Post by Scrapper on Jun 22, 2014 22:21:51 GMT -5
By the okuma copper rod, cv30 convector reel and 19 strand wire. Rock on and way under budget.
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Post by gilligan on Jun 23, 2014 7:57:13 GMT -5
Wire and P PRO run at the same depth with the same amount of line out,if your looking to add another inside set up you mite want to consider a torpedo diver,mono dip or slide diver.
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Post by waterdog on Jun 23, 2014 12:30:44 GMT -5
The twilli tips will work just fine for you, if you were going to be fishing every day I might say look at a more expensive roller rod. You may also want to check out the JR's Tackle wire line rods. For reels the 47 sealine would be a good choice , the 57 would be bigger than you need IMO.
If your planning on running four divers I would move the dipsies to the wire and put slide divers on the pp rods, that should give you a little more flexibility with your divers when the fish a up high in the water column.
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Post by NoFishNick on Jun 23, 2014 12:48:33 GMT -5
I do like my JR's wire rod with the smooth drag of a Daiwa Sealine...
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Post by lennyws on Jun 23, 2014 14:10:30 GMT -5
Remember when running the wire dipsey to keep the drag super loose! I have had fish blow up that rod multiple times and if the drag is not loose you can lose everything (except the rod and reel)! a lot easier (and cheaper) to tighten the drag once the fight is on. I do love when the wire dipsety is the hot rod(s)!!!
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Post by greybeard on Jun 23, 2014 14:12:40 GMT -5
I have a couple friends who bought the new for the Great Lakes roller guide rods from Okuma. A little pricy but not as compared to Shimano. If I were buying I would get the 9' med heavy with all rollers. It is a little more $ but note it has 9 guides. The only review on this site didn't like them. Interesting to see what other think of them. Try a search on Great Lakes Angler as this topic has been discussed before. www.tacklehaven.com/okuma-big-lake-tournament-series-wire-roller-rods/I have Shimano 8' roller rods. I put the Torpedo swivel tip on last summer and works well. Not sure yet if any less curling. If one is not careful any of the standard roller tips can get groves if you don't keep the rod so the wire line is centered on the rollers. My Shimano's were pretty grooved so rather than taking advantage of the lifetime warranty I changed to Torpedo swivel tips. If budget were no object I would buy the 10' Shimano roller rod with swivel tip. It is pretty flexible and makes me wonder if the extra give in that extra 2' of rod acts as a shock absorber for big fish. It's the rod I see most on charters and big buck boats. I've landed fish on them and they are a little floppy but maybe that's good with wire. I've only used 7 strand wire so no opinion on 19. I've wondered if that many more strands finds thin wire that may be more susceptible to breakage. Grey Beard
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Post by boog on Jun 23, 2014 14:24:28 GMT -5
I've been running the Okuma wire rods with rollers for two years now although I do not believe they are the Big Lake Tournament Series that Greybeard has referred to above. Don't remember the model off hand but will check tonight. All the roller guides look the same except for the tip. So far, I like them and I have not had any significant problems with them. Take into consideration that I only do about 10 trips a year.
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Post by greybeard on Jun 23, 2014 14:37:55 GMT -5
PP and wire do achieve similar depths but wire is a little deeper. I have bounced bottom in 100fow with 1# balls for LT. On the 30# wire rod took about 200' and on the 40# Rip Cord rod took about 225'.
PP is great but if we have a year of thick fish hook fleas they are worthless and go back to the garage. Nice to have options.
Grey Beard
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Post by BlueCollar Outdoors on Jun 23, 2014 15:09:22 GMT -5
I was ticking bottom and pulled up a couple Zebras last week in 92 feet of water with a mag wire dipsy out 188 on a #2 setting. We were going 2.2 mph.
Depth is easy to achieve but so far mine must be laced with new car smell as it not a hot rod for me by any means.
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Post by ChampionShip on Jun 23, 2014 18:13:52 GMT -5
9' shimano roller rods are what we use and love them. Lots of backbone but very forgiving even for rookies. Pricey but they stand up to daily abuse
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Post by BlackOut on Jun 23, 2014 20:07:18 GMT -5
I run the okumas rollers with catalinas an torpedo wire... definitely some of the most productive rods on my boat
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