Flourocarbon leader lenghts on leadcore

[munchkin]

Just curious what everybody set theirs up with. I know this has been covered before but now with the new board we cant just bump it. Thought I would refresh my memory and get this up for new guys that join the board...

Thank you!!

[Fish Slapper]

Actually I add mono to the end...

Slapper

[Reel Melodi]

Same here.... Mono for me....

Dan

[rupey]

Mono for me too.

[ChampionShip]

Fluoro, 20 lb test, usually PLine on everything including my riggers ( I shorten up toe 6' leads on riggers). I like to keep my leads 20' because I think that anything longer than that tends to dumb down the action that your leadcore or copper would add to your presentation.

[clam2]

I dont use a single foot of flurocarbon leader on any leadcore rigs, including SWR's.........I use 20 pound Ande clear mono......

For leadcore board lines (1-10 colors) I generally attach approximately 40 feet of mono as leader material, while I tend to place 50 feet of mono as leader on SWR's......

The only place you will ever see me using flurocarbon leader is on mono board lines (around 5-6 feet of 25 pound Seguar after the keel weight), and on all dipsy rigs (6-7 feet of 40 pound Seguar fluro leader material).....

IMO (for what that is worth) it is tremendously expensive and a bit of a waste to use that much actual flurocarbon leader material (like Seguar, Ande, etc) on a leadcore rig when you look at spending $18 just for 75 feet of the stuff....

[ChampionShip]

***The only place you will ever see me using flurocarbon leader is on mono board lines (around 5-6 feet of 25 pound Seguar after the keel weight), and on all dipsy rigs (6-7 feet of 40 pound Seguar fluro leader material).....***


Why use it on a diver? That's a less than stealth approach IMO. I typically use 25 lb mono on divers for the stretch and abrasion resistance it provides. I will say that on my Plugs- I tie a 1' leader of 40lb test Ande Fluoro leader material to the bead chain....Just a personal preference I suppose. Flys also get 40 or 50 lb fluoro leads. Again- don't see the need for it on a diver that's making a giant ruckus in the water in front of the bait, but I may try it to see if it helps.

[clam2]

May 10, 2010 14:27:51 GMT -5 ChampionShip said:

***The only place you will ever see me using flurocarbon leader is on mono board lines (around 5-6 feet of 25 pound Seguar after the keel weight), and on all dipsy rigs (6-7 feet of 40 pound Seguar fluro leader material).....***


Why use it on a diver? That's a less than stealth approach IMO. I typically use 25 lb mono on divers for the stretch and abrasion resistance it provides. I will say that on my Plugs- I tie a 1' leader of 40lb test Ande Fluoro leader material to the bead chain....Just a personal preference I suppose. Flys also get 40 or 50 lb fluoro leads. Again- don't see the need for it on a diver that's making a giant ruckus in the water in front of the bait, but I may try it to see if it helps.

I have been using 40 pound Seguar or Ande fluro on dipsies for almost ten years and I am not complaining of my dipsy action on the whole.......and since I run a lot of flasher/fly combos on dipsies throughout the year, I like the stiffer line for the flasher and fly action....

In fact, I will be running a pair of wire line dipsy rigs this season, which creates even more signature in the water ---- in some cases for some very good fisherman on this board, they outfished their braided or mono dipsy rigs by a 4 to 1 margin --- that is pretty telling in regard to the term stealthy when talking about dipsies in general....that "major rukus" may be what is leading to hooking all those fish!

There really isnt any such thing as a truly stealthy dipsy to begin with (based on the overall turbulance the dipsy creates in the water) so fisherman have to come up with some things that they can do to make their dipsy presentations as stealthy as they can when they feel they need to......Here are some examples:

1) Fish with clear dipsies

2) Use flurocarbon leader after the snubber

3) Run dipsy on 3-1/2 setting to get it away from the boat

4) Run only one dipsy on each side of the boat (especially in shallow and clear water due to zebra mussels)

5) Run longer flurocarbon leaders

These are just a few examples of things you can do.......obviously to each his own and there are many ways to look at and actually approach the subject.....

P.S. I use 40 pound Ande mono for the tying of all flies (peanut, medium or long) for as long as I have been fishing Lake Michigan and catch a lot of fish on them........here again, I guess it all depends on a person's comfort level as to what someone uses....

[SteveO]

or just run a slide diver?

[mojorisin]

Flouro versus mono comes down to a confidence thing for most people. Most importantly for most people is the cost aspect. People are either willing to spend the extra cash or not.

I know using fluoro can't hurt due to it becoming invisible in water. Fluoro is also much more abrasion resistant. I've gone back and forth with fluoro on the Big Pond many times and as of late I've been using mono but I still own some 20# Gamma that I will add to lead core setups on occasion.

For Lake Erie, all of my Mayfly Rigs are made with 15# Pline fluoro and I would go no other way there. I also am a fan of fluoro on my tip-ups, tip-downs and jig poles on the hard water. On the Pond, much of the strikes are reactionary with the baits whizzing by so fluoro "probably" does not have as much of an impact other than being so abrasion resistant.

If money was not an object, I'd use fluoro regularly.

[scrapper]

I think fluoro is a probably a little more important when you are fishing higher up in the water column. Once you get deeper there is less light penetration and fish may be less likely to see the light refraction from mono. The part about being more abrasion resistant helps with fish getting into your rigger cables and braided lines.

[greybeard]

I to have gone back and forth on Fluoro. I'm not totally convinced it makes a difference on the big pond for line shy fish. However, Seniletoo asked me if the investment in fluoro could get you a couple of more bites in a tourney, would it be worth it? We've been one fish short way too often so I now use it on leadcore ane copper. I first used Gamma 20# and had a couple of breakoffs and same with 20# Berkley 100%. Never had that prob with 20# BigGame. I went to 25# early last yr and no breakoffs.

I also ran 20' of the 20# Berkley double uni to my 20# BigGame on rigger rods. Had two screamers break at the uni's and now just using the Big Game.

Fluoro may be more abrasion resistant but it does not have the knot strenght of mono. It is stiffer and may give more whip but I don't think the salmon care when the are hitting flies whether stiff mono or fluoro. I use 40# ande for coho flies and 50# Ande for big flies.

I use 12# 100% fluoro with my 10# Fireline for walleye jiggin. I seem to get as many or more bites than companions who don't use fluoro and I definately get more jigs back with bent wire hooks on snags.

Tight lines and full coolers,

Grey Beard