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Post by fishoil on Oct 27, 2011 21:21:29 GMT -5
I have a set of buggy bags to try out on my boat but I'm not sure exactly how to deploy them. Should they be tied to the cleat up on the bow, to the midship cleat, or is it more a matter of where they are in the water in relation to the boat?
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Post by scrapper on Oct 27, 2011 21:29:33 GMT -5
I really would not deploy them any farther forward than mid ship. Otherwise your steering will get a little weird.(major understatement)  Scrapper p.s. a tie up 1/3 forward from stern is best for steering. IMHO |
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Post by fishoil on Oct 27, 2011 21:42:55 GMT -5
If I tie them to the middle cleats I'm thinking they'll be in the water right below my rods towards the rear of the boat. I'm worried about them being in the way there since I sometimes end up netting fish off the side of the boat, especially with the feisty 3 year olds lately. Or do they end up more under the boat?
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Post by scrapper on Oct 27, 2011 21:57:34 GMT -5
The narrow end of the bag should be under far enough not to worry about and just in front of the riggers. I was on a boat that had them 3/4 up from stern and steering was a chore. Also the cross currents can give you fits. The biggest problem was current and cross wind, you really have to power up to turn, or pull one up.
Scrapper
p.s. I was on this boat twice and both times were tough at best, and the currents off Northern Door County can pose problems at times with nothing in the water. It may not be a fair judgment.
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Post by salty on Oct 28, 2011 5:52:11 GMT -5
they do also keep the boat from rocking in rough condidtions. P.S. when i first seen this post " trolling bags" i thought it was going to be a question about fishing with the wife  |
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Post by greybeard on Oct 28, 2011 6:27:10 GMT -5
After all these yrs of trolling I finally got trolling bags after being on a boat that used them. I'd been told by friends for yrs how good they were but stubornly didn't get them. We were out in rel calm waters and then a NE blow started. He put out the bags in his 22' boat and it turned 3' back to 1s.
I've only used mine 3-4 times but impressed as well as my crew. I have them cleated to be about mid-ship. I tie then on the stern short enuf so the don't go under the boat much. They end up under my dipsy rods but no problem re-setting dipys. I don't net off the side so that's not an issue.
I got 25" size from Papa Sports. That size is plenty big for my 21' Wellcraft. In fact with a stiff se wind and 3' waves it takes almost all of my old 9.9Yamaha to keep at a good trolling speed. The most notable difference when using them is decreasing the rocking when fishing troughs.
Remember trolling bags are not the same as drift socks. They are made of a little stronger nylon and stitching.
I wonder how they would work for aluminum boats as it seems they have more difficultly in the wind/waves. Any of you aluminum boat owners have a comment on trolling bags?
Grey Beard
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Post by fishoil on Oct 28, 2011 8:17:28 GMT -5
P.S. when i first seen this post " trolling bags" i thought it was going to be a question about fishing with the wife ROTFLMAO ;D My wife volunteered to go along fishing with me tomorrow and that only happens about once every couple of years. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 9:01:23 GMT -5
Steve –running them too far back will cut down on their effectiveness on stabilizing in rough seas. If you remember my boat, the back of my bags stretch to about where my dual dipsy rod holders are…. Also, the longer your “leader” is, the easier it will be to deploy and run the bags. The best thing I like about bags is when we’ve got a big fish on that just won’t give any line back, but I have a trolling speed that is working, I can deploy a bag (or two) to slow the boat rather than mess with the throttle. This way, when the fish is landed I can just pull the bag out of the water and will be right back at the speed we want to be at. They also help with trolling 8-10 foot seas |
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Post by fishoil on Oct 28, 2011 10:49:07 GMT -5
I was planning to tie them to the cleat up on the bow with a long enough lead so that they would be in the water about 2/3 of the way back to the stern. Then attach the rear line to the cleat on the back gunnel. Would they work better tied to the mid-ship cleat with a short lead so that they end up in the same place?
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Post by ChampionShip on Oct 28, 2011 11:13:04 GMT -5
I was planning to tie them to the cleat up on the bow with a long enough lead so that they would be in the water about 2/3 of the way back to the stern. Then attach the rear line to the cleat on the back gunnel. Would they work better tied to the mid-ship cleat with a short lead so that they end up in the same place? After running them on Kyle's boat on a midship cleat all year it seemed to work very well. Tony's new boat was the same. |
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Post by fishoil on Oct 28, 2011 11:26:06 GMT -5
The pictures of Tony's boat are what got me thinking about it. I rigged them up for the front cleat last night and then after looking at the pics and seeing them on his middle cleat I started to wonder which would control roll better. I'm thinking in calm seas it wouldn't much matter, but what about when it gets bumpy out there?
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Post by ChampionShip on Oct 28, 2011 11:37:35 GMT -5
The pictures of Tony's boat are what got me thinking about it. I rigged them up for the front cleat last night and then after looking at the pics and seeing them on his middle cleat I started to wonder which would control roll better. I'm thinking in calm seas it wouldn't much matter, but what about when it gets bumpy out there? Take Floorboy fishing with you- tie the bag to his right arm- then throw the bag overboard and enjoy the show. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 11:40:39 GMT -5
I was planning to tie them to the cleat up on the bow with a long enough lead so that they would be in the water about 2/3 of the way back to the stern. Then attach the rear line to the cleat on the back gunnel. Would they work better tied to the mid-ship cleat with a short lead so that they end up in the same place? I like your original plan, 2/3rds of the way sounds like what I do, with a long "leader" to the tie off cleat. I have seen shorter leads cause problems on other boats with the bags popping out of the water and un-deploying themselves. PS: I wonder where Tony got those bags from??  That brand is not what I would recommend for long term use as they are destined to tear eventually... but for as little as I use them they do the job. |
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Post by fishoil on Oct 28, 2011 11:56:01 GMT -5
Take Floorboy fishing with you- tie the bag to his right arm- then throw the bag overboard and enjoy the show. ;D Are you talking about the buggy bag or my wife?  |
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Post by Floorboy on Oct 28, 2011 21:04:54 GMT -5
Either one.  |
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That brand is not what I would recommend for long term use as they are destined to tear eventually... but for as little as I use them they do the job. 
