two dipseys on a side! need some help

[mudminnow]

ok guys this year im thinking about running two dipseys per side. What are some tips and techniques that you might have to save on some tangles for myself? Im planning on running a wire and braid per side. For the guys that run this are you running wire and braid? Braid and mono? Mono and Wire? Thanks

[ChampionShip]

I have some of each, braid, wire and mono- they each have their place.

Wire is always my deepest Diver and is usually set on '1.5' and on a shorter rod than the diver that has either braid or mono. Make sure your rod is at least a foot shorter than your next diver and keep the wire closer to the stern than your other diver as well- that should take care of any tangle issues.

Braid is meant to run a bit shallower than Wire, but can still run plenty deep and has virtually no stretch like wire.

Mono is for high divers set on '3' and run no deeper than 40' for me. Mono is stretchy so in some cases you don't need a snubber which is nice.

I had good success with braid slide diver setups last year, it actually trumped my wire presentations which is fairly odd. I use 40 or 50 lb test Green Power Pro for braid, 20 Lb Malin for wire and 25 lb Big Game for mono but that's just what has worked for me- everyone has opinions. After that strong west blow in late July last year I was glad to have several mono setups for divers and such since the fish were in so shallow.

[clam2]

This is my first year running wire dipsies thanks in large part to the successes of lots of very good fishermen on this website.....

I am not one to normally run two dipsies per side of the boat so I am venturing into somewhat new territory myself (when I do it on select trips)......

I am going to be running three different combinations this season (wire line and braided) (wire line and mono) and (braided and mono).....my inside (wire line or braided) dipsies will be on setting 2 while the outside dipsies (braided or mono) will be on setting 3-1/2.....

I will be using 8 or 8-1/2 foot inside dipsy rods and 10 footers on the outside for decent separation.....I dont mind telling you that I am a little nervous doing this, but I am going to do it anyway!

While I picture the anger management issues blowing up in my head over a wire line dipsy tangling into anything I do know that if I deploy everything properly and dont try to reinvent the wheel I should be just fine.....

I will say that I wont be deploying two dipsies on the same side of the boat in a heavy current or on every single trip just because I can......From thinking about this practice, I would say that making sure the dipsies are deployed properly and with some decent separation (rod tips, dipsy settings and depths) it should be like second nature after a few trips....

[mudminnow]

thanks for the advice guys. Now, would i really be asking for trouble if i try doing this with my side downriggers out?

[clam2]

If you normally run a side rigger when using one dipsy right now, you shouldnt have any trouble whatsoever with adding the second dipsy rig........

My only thought would be to stay away from running a large flasher/fly on your side rigger (due to the large rotational area it covers and the fact that your inside dipsy may be on a setting number less than you used to have it on) that might cause it to hook your inside and subsequently outside dipsy rig causing one enormous mess......

[ChampionShip]

I do it with the side riggers out everytime I fish and it's not too much of an issue as long as you're careful and as Clam said- mind the large flashers.

[mudminnow]

thanks for the input. I usually run my dipseys on 3-3 1/2 right now, so ill have to play with one on a different setting before i add another. By the way, my names Brandon, and my dad and I fish out of Kewaunee. Ive been reading all your guys input for a long time and finally decided to take part in the discussion. Great insite and thanks again

[hazzard]

Hi Brandon I like your questions because I have a lot of the same ones. I am rigging up my first boat and I will be fishing 2 dipsys a side like you so all this info is very helpful.

[pioneer]

I can't add any more but would just like to add don't be scared of running 2 a side because you might get a tangle. Tangles happen and I mean big ones from time to time. Let them out under drag pressure slowly and you will love 2 a side. The "Port guys" got me into it 4-5 years ago (thanks) and it's now a main stay for my boat, and I wouldn't be on the water without 2 a side. Chris

[fishoil]

I run a pound ball on a 8' rod straight out off each rear corner of the boat. What do you think my chances are of not catching it with a wire diver set on 1.5 and a mono diver set on 3.5 on each side? I usually run only one diver but have been thinking about trying 2 when I'm feeling particularly masochistic.

[Phishy]

;D

just do it, and figure it out what didn’t work later....I’m in the same boat (figuratively) in that I’m not sure about running multiple dipises , but at some point I hafta take it like a man and just do it

Here’s what I have gathered from this board, i'm a rookie but ....

Always, always then always….Deepest inside, 1.5 setting wire or super braid, mags will run deeper, anything w/ rings will run deeper, run this set closest back from riggers, shorter rods

Next line… must run shallower and out, mono or braid, 2.0/2.5setting for either, without rings the further out and shallower they will run….. Longer rods

Go shallow from bow to deepest to stern… running deeper as you get closer to the stern/chute…..

watch out for riggers be sure to set them deepest (SWR?)

Envision an inward v from the back profile and inward v from above with everything leaving the back chute open


There’s no easy way to splain it

[flooboy]

The first trip I made on the lake I put 2 dipsies out with outdown riggers. Its not that hard. Watch the paddles like previously stated. Also if you get into some big current situation you might want to pull something or you will be cutting lines free. I've only had that one weekend so far, out of port, had guys puling over the side.... it was confused out there that weekend though.

[tewwbulltom]

Try running a magnum right down the shoot just under the prop wash. It was my most productive line last year. You have to clear it often to land fish and it pulls way to hard so have the right pole/line but it gives you one more option if you only run 2 riggers. Never tried a slide diver there but that would get you away from the boat a bit.

terrible

[mudminnow]

thanks for the info, i hope to give the new setup a try this weekend.
tight lines
mudminnow

[jennyann]

Hi Brandon.
Same Brandon that came brown fishing with us last year? When runnign two divers on a side I run the outside one up high on a 3 1/2 setting. The one inside that is on a 1 1/2 on wire and that is the one I target down deep with. I space the 2 rods apart by about 3-4 feet and have the high diver be a longer rod than the inside one. Flashers are fine as long as you pay attention. This year we are targeting running 3 divers a side Also again shamelessly promoting, we are running learning trips this year if you want to try some hands on on my stuff before you try it on your boat. I listed the details under the june vs july questions. Also if you guys are at kewaunee this weekend, i will be around the boat a bit and could answer any other questions.
Thanks,
Kyle Wogsland
www.jennyannsportfishing.com