Flasher/Fly Help

[slamminsalmon]

I'm looking for a little advice on making my flasher success more consist ant.
My main question is the validity of creating a spread aka bait fish school look to my spread?

I usually run 10 rods. Two riggers (one with swr- flasher fly) one with spoon mono. ---- 2 deep power pro mag dispeys usually spoons- 2 slide divers high on the outside dipsey holders---- and 4 boards 7 and 10 colors usually spoons but sometimes 8in spindoctors and fly, and a 2 and 3 color with 00 dodgers and peanuts.

I have about 20 flashers about 1/2 hot spots/coyotes and the other 1/2 spin doctors. Should I consider all 4 of my deep rods (riggers/mag dispeys) be flasher fly. If so should I stick with one style? Or would mixing matching down deep be ok? Also does anyone have good success with 7-10 color spin doctors off boards?

I usually get one fish every trip on either a green or white flasher/fly on my rigger, but 75% of my fish come on spoons.

Just wondering about my success if I committed 6 rods to my presentation and became married to them for a trip or two??

My driver is a longtime veteran 70's-80's Milwaukee spoon guy and he hates it when I run the plastic.

Any feedback appreciated.

Tight Lines-I'll be in Port Sunday

SLAMMIN SALMON

[rudyg]

Slammin, I will be watching this thread closely.. I'm with you.. I am old school and run mostly spoons.. "75% of my fish come on spoons" More like 90% for me... but I do have pretty good luck with one setup off of a dipsy.. Moonshine fly with a white/cracked ice/Glow Spindoctor. One of my best producers. I run all sorts of others off another dipsy.. and occcasionally off one my deep riggers.. but maybe thats the issue.. like you.. I dont run a whole lot of Flasherfly combos.. maybe more this year

[salmonkid]

I would say you have to run what works best for you, a vast part of success is confidence. I would say I probably run 75-80% F/F, but thats what works for me. Im a big fan of a light line rigger w spoons, other than that spoons are mostly dictated to high dipsies, cores and some copper. F/F catch alot of fish but they arent as easy to use as a spoons because there are so many more variables(color, fly, fly length, beads, delivery device, current, speed etc). I would start small and work your way up from there; generally speaking drastic changes to your spread to "match" another persons will often lead to worse results then what you had before. My Two Cents....

Capt Matt
tiggerIIcharters.com

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[clam2]

I personally have better success running spoons on SWR's, and have found that flasher/fly combos have been more effective on mono rigger rods....

I will most likely run a spoon on an SWR down very deep on one back rigger and an 8 inch flasher/fly on the other mono back rigger, while unconventionally running an 11 inch flasher/fly on one side rigger and a spoon on the other side rigger......

Dont discount running a flasher/fly on a dipsy on the same side that you are running a spoon on a side rigger.....two years ago I ran a 10 inch spin doctor/fly combos on both braided dipsies and they were usually on fire on most early morning trips....

Nothing wrong with doing some experimenting!

[pioneer]

Slamminsalmon, this is a tough answer because your going to hear some different answers. What I would do is start with a SWR on one rigger (spoon) and have a F/F 10 ' above it. Put F/F on divers and go for the "school" looking deal. Then put spoons on the cores and start there. 24 inch leader on the F/F and keep your down speed around 2.0 mph and do the drunkin sailor turns, slowly in and out to see what they like. I love Hotspots and e-chips myself. I run 90% white flashers with aqua and kermit color flys. What Matt said is right on, if you change to meet someone else and don't do whats best for your boat sometimes you just spend time chasing what others are doing. Time on the water and confidence are big in the salmon game. Just my 0.02$. Chris

[slamminsalmon]

Thanks for the advice guys. I do have 4 rigger rods, but only 2 riggers. I was thinking about stacking them Sunday. If I did that Swr's on the bottoms with spoons and the two stacked rods 10' higher w/mono? And then maybe 2 spin doctors w/ flasher flys on my deep mag dipseys???

Thanks,
SLAMMIN SALMON

[tewwbulltom]

SS... I'm a spoon guy too but my bernockerlers see a big flash when a fish is being brought in off a charter that is just killen em made me switch. Take a walk around the charter docks and notice all the f/f. Good luck with stacking that can be a real hassle, A stinger is a better choice and the f/f over or under a spoon was discuss on the old board, but being memory challenged I forget which way to go.

Anyway isn't half the fun buying more stuff you seldom run. I'm not having much fun cause I am broke.

Poor tom

[Reel Fun]

TRy your spin dr and fly on your dipsys. I also run the 11" regular flashers on my dipsys too. These have been very good rods for me and have produced well the last couple years.

[steelhead]

I like my F/F on most of my rods with throwing in a spoon or two so I am 90% F/F bite. I am starting to use some of the glow spoons as well as the spoons that have the ladder back look to it. Try many different things and find what works for you, may not work for someone else. Good luck.