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Post by Reel Fun on May 27, 2010 8:43:28 GMT -5
Okay previous years I always ran a rod down the chute and then stand it straight up if a fish was on another line. This year I am getting tangled in it all the time. I tried up to a 3 color and let it out around 250'. Would a rod with more colors help?? I cant remember what I ran there the previous years? What are you guys running there??
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Post by NoFishNick on May 27, 2010 9:14:22 GMT -5
I usually run a full core, copper , or a 1# ball down the chute. It needs to be a deep line so most of the time in coming fish are on top of it.
Do not run a SWR with a deep chute line out.
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Post by titletowntim on May 27, 2010 9:21:40 GMT -5
I agree what Nick says. We often will run a 1 lb ball down the chute. Another option that works is if you have your chute rod elevated up on a rocket launcher you can get away with a surface line waaay back for rainbows up high. You just bring your other fish to the transom underneath the high chute rod.
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Post by aquaholic on May 27, 2010 9:27:49 GMT -5
Rodney, I do not run a chute rod as I find it just gets in the way. I would recommend running another board and keep your back open but that's just my opinion (for whatever that's worth) I've often seen people run long lines down the chute and put the rod in the radar arch. It gets the occasional bow and can be moved quickly if the fish that is being brought in gets 'active' behind the boat. If you do put it in the radar arch, put it off to one side. A question . . . do you catch fish on it? If not, I'd lean towards putting out another board. Good luck!
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Post by remedy on May 27, 2010 9:47:48 GMT -5
We don't run anything down the chute for the exact reason you described. It gets tangled too much - especially if you're having boards get hit and coming across the back - we had the most success running it high off the arch way back with 2 or 3 colors of lead and trying to keep under it with the fish, but failed too often on that approach to keep doing it.
Good luck with it - hopefully you'll be more successful with it...
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Post by tewwbulltom on May 27, 2010 9:49:51 GMT -5
My best rod over the past 2 years has been a magnum Dipsey set on zero just under the prop wash, six to eight passes on a 6500 with power pro. That being said , I do remove it while a fish is being fought which is pretty fast considering the short amount of line out, and immediately return it upon landing the fish.
side bar.... I lost a rod/reel and a 40 # salmon when I had the rod standing straight up with the drag set too tight. The drag has to be increased to bring it back and I forgot and normally I angle the rod right over the outboard, 2 mistakes. Oh well another $300 in the lake.
It might have been 50#
Tom
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Post by ChampionShip on May 27, 2010 9:54:24 GMT -5
I do either a high line of just a 5/8oz keel weight, Lb ball, full core, 300 copper. I dont think it's entirely necessary but to avoid tangles I'd always have someone burn that line in while the other let's the fish tire itself out.
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Post by pioneer on May 27, 2010 9:56:42 GMT -5
Tom, I have a Charter buddy that loves the diver on "0" down the chute. I think I will try that. My bet is that your set backs on your riggers are tight with that rig. Whats your Max set back? Thanks, Chris
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Post by hitnrun on May 27, 2010 9:58:34 GMT -5
I used to run a chute 10 color, and that turned into a chute 5 color, witch turned into an open back. My chute rod is not my deep SWR and I can move it left or right when netting. Problem with a long line down the center is this in my opinion. Big King hits usually spin out about 50-100' of line right? What is the first thing they do after the initial short run??? HEAD TO THE SURFACE! Then you get the long screaming run. Or sometimes they'll peel out line and then hit the surface. Either way, your long line will be in the way.
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Post by Reel Fun on May 27, 2010 10:03:49 GMT -5
Last year I believe it was a surface line with a couple colors of lead and it did produce quite often. From what I remember we just stood it up if a fish was on another with no problems. Not the case this year. I did run it tue night and after a tangle I put it back out and stuck it up in the rocket launcher. Wouldnt you know we had a a hit on it and by the time I got it out of the launcher the fish was gone.
I like the method Tom has. And I guess just reel it in if there is a fish on another line.
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Post by RedRider on May 27, 2010 10:06:49 GMT -5
I run a chute rod only when I'm daring a fish to strike.
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Post by Reel Fun on May 27, 2010 10:07:47 GMT -5
Red Rider you dont need a chute rod you catch enuff fish without one.
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Post by RedRider on May 27, 2010 10:10:27 GMT -5
You must be thinking of some Risin guy named MOJO not me and if I don't get back outside and finish the wheel bearing I'll never get there to catch any in the so called Red Boat.
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Post by Reel Fun on May 27, 2010 10:14:39 GMT -5
Reid my boat is in the water just let me know when you want too go. All you need is yourself
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Post by tewwbulltom on May 27, 2010 11:17:44 GMT -5
My old school rigging is something that has either been hot or cold. My main observation is that if you forget about the stealth thingy, my leads bunch my lures so that anything that sees one bait might hit a different bait. My leads off the riggers tend to be short 20 to 30 ft which also allows me to turn much more with out tangles/cross over with a stinger always attached to each. Salmon look for bait pods and they cut into them biting like crazy, circle around and then pick up the road kill. A fish any fish is programmed to feed on the the most bait with the least amount of effort. They are not going to chase one minnow. That would be losing calories. The prop wash thing is a tip I got from an old Musky guy who always had a rod fully loaded and when the boat came off plain someone would fire it back into the wash. When fish see something different they react. Sometimes they scatter and sometimes they bite, but a number of big ski's have bit. My planner boards for bows is similar with a 30 ft lead without any weight. The bird acts as an attractor, brings the fish in, and they hit your spoon trying to get that predator from eating their bugs, not to eat the minnow. I have had muskies hit a planner board. My charter boat had a bridge and you could see bows on the surface take a hard turn toward the board, when they sensed the planner. Don't credit me for that but Championships dad in Algoma. A rubber core rod length from the lure acted as a planner stop more than a weight. Another consideration is that while running short you don't have the wild differences in lure speed associated with long lines. That being said it seems that from my limited memory, that most of the tournaments in the past were won on long long line presentations away from the crowd.
Wow that was a mouthfull.
Chatty Tom
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