Dipsy Question

[littlebluelund]

So I am trying these damn things each time out but now I have a new question. What is the difference in planning distance from a 1 setting, 2 setting, 3 setting?

I run my dipsys one per side on the far setting, how far to the side is that planning under the water from the boat?

I am thinking I am running them to deep right now, usually 100 LOC on one and 150 on the other.

Any help further suggestions? I run a snubber from the diver to an eight foot leader than the lure. Good, Bad,? On a dipsy is a spoon a better lure vs. fly dodger?

[hitnrun]

3 gets further to the side. 1 gets it deeper. Rings will also make it run deeper or plane to the side further. I can't say for sure how far to the side it goes....maybe 20-30' with 100 loc.
Here's what you do dude:
Run your line (from rod) to a decent snap swivel. Attach Dipsey. Set the Dipsey on the bottom at 3. Attach snubber to back of Dipsey. Add a 5' length of 20-30lb mono/floro. Put a 00 orange dodger on it, and run a peanut fly 12" in back of it. Let this out 35loc and let it out 10 more loc every 5 minuets till it gets bit.
Second Diver, set up same as the first only add the snubber and add 6-7' of mono/floro to a snap. Add your favorite spoon. Let it out 50loc and 10loc every 5 minuets, till it gets bit.
Deepest I've taken a Dipsey hit all year has been 115loc on Power Pro, braided line. Sometimes the Dipseys draw the fish to your spread, making the riggers fire. Some time vise verse. Run that first set-up....if you don't catch a fish in the first 1.5 hours, I'll buy you a Big Mac!

[hitnrun]

Remember to start shallower with everything and work deeper, unless to KNOW the fish are deep! And just because you mark deeper fish on your fish finder, doesn't mean they're ALL DEEP! I was out with Brent and Jason 2 weeks ago, and didn't mark sheet! Dipsey and boards all took fish though!

[greybeard]

Hitnrun has given you some great pointers. I prefer a longer leader and have experimented some and now run 8. I have mine pre-tied and wrapped for storage on a leader minder. I use 40# Ande as never convinced that a fish hittng a dipsy with snubber, flasher/fly would be line shy. Some days they out perform riggers and on those days I assume the fish want a more active presentation so I shorten my rigger leads. I typically run 2 per side and the tangles are operater error when setting rods.

When coho fishing the early AM 3 set will start at 25loc and drop a bit as the day progresses. To many peoples surprise when king fishing and starting in the dark dark, same 25loc. They feed up, not down and 25-35 loc sometimes the best in the dark as the dipsy imparts its own signal and calls them in. Mono and 2 color boards can also stick a lot of fish in the dark.

Grey Beard

[scrapper]

LBL, if you are only running 1 per side there is no need to set the dial past 2 or 2 and a half. Where your line enters the water is not a good indicator of where the dipsy is in relation to your boat. You would be surprised how far away from your riggers they are. Another problem is when your dipsy pops on a maximum setting is how close it comes to the inside board as it rises to the surface.

[littlebluelund]

My set up is fairly simple because the Salmon Assassin is only 16'5" feet of pure beastly fishing machine. Repeats for both sides as well.

I run a dipsy farthest out, then I run leadcore without a board at a 45 degree angle to the dipsy line, then I run a rigger straight back with only a 15-20' lead.

I dont eat McDonalds but if I would like to substitue the Big Mac for a Culvers butter burger.

[mojorisin]

LBL, you really should consider running your lead core off inline boards to in essence spread your boat (i.e. cover more water). Those lines will be hit more often, especially when out of prime time. Many of us run 3 (or more) boards per side and really give them a run. That increases the amount of water you are covering in a huge way which will add hits. Sorry this reply was not related to dipseys, but I think the others have covered that for you.

Just out of curiosity and sorry if I've missed this, but what size dipsey are you running?

[littlebluelund]

I normally only fish one other person in the boat so we can only run six lines, so I figure dipsy, leadcore, rigger.

I run size 0 dipsys, I do a couple size 1 as well.

[flooboy]

The correct answer should have been size 666 divers.

[BFG]

I normally only fish one other person in the boat so we can only run six lines, so I figure dipsy, leadcore, rigger.

If you run your leadcore off of inline boards, you will put it back into play. As is right now, you are running your leadcore in water that already has had either a rigger or a dipsey run through it.

Listen to these guys...they will get you bit...

[captdougie]

LBL,

If you really want to know how deep they are running, get in an area where the bottom of the lake doesn't have a lot of sudden change in depth, let your dipsy out till it bounces bottom and record the LOC. I've done this with different settings as well as different speeds and logged the results so I have my own depth chart.

[clam2]

Lots of good points on this thread by everyone responding.....

I would try to make it very simple for yourself at this stage ---- set your #1 dipsies at the #2 setting (with ring), and run out around 45 LOC on one and maybe 69 on the other and send them down a little more as the trip progresses until you start getting hits......start with six foot leaders after the snubber (if you are using them) and experiment a little with length of leader later.....

Run a OO orange dodger/peanut fly combo on one and a small spoon on the other and give that a whirl so you can begin to dial in your dipsy program......

If you are still running your riggers straight out of the back of the boat, no chance of the rigger and dipsy tangling either --- rest assured if that worry is creeping into your thoughts in the least!

You are going to succeed at running dipsies ----- you just have to find that starting point, taste a little success and build some confidence!

[Phishy]

there's nothing quite like seeing a dipsy rod buck then....... scream.........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........

[littlebluelund]

When the dipsy rod fires does the fish come up with horns and a trident? Do the gates of hell open as another of satan's minnions are released.......

Speaking of satan, looks like there was a good time at Bradford beach and the lakefront this weekend, thats reason No. 5006 why I dont launch at McKinley. I remember when they used to pull us to patrol water street because the hood started making their way down there, that was a mess.

[flooboy]

We had a hoodlum step out of the trees and throw a water bottle at us last year over the 4th just before the McKinley entrance..... I could see there were a bunch of other guys walking around in the trees. My driver stopped to take them on, which normally i would be all over, not so much at 3;30 a.m. in Milwaukee. Anyway, I got out to back him up and luckily we made it out of there.